Oct 30 2007
Nicky Barnes and Frank Lucas - New York magazine

Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes Speak: Proud to See Diddy Making Dollars

On the eve of American Gangster’s opening weekend, New York magazine was able to get Frank Lucas (played by Denzel Washington) and his rival, Nicky Barnes (played by Cuba Gooding Jr.) together for the first conversation between the two in 30 years, “Lords of Dopetown.”

Like most dealers who’ve left the life, especially when it’s involuntary, both Lucas and Barnes said they shouldn’t be glorified for what they did.

Nicky Barnes: No one should be elevated because of what they did in the drug business. The way we operated - there was a lot of violence, like, ten to twelve homicides, to keep the whole operation running. You can’t glorify that. It’s not something Frank or I would tell any of our children to get into.

Heroin wreaked a lot of havoc and a lot of pain in the black community. I shouldn’t have done it. Maybe I was aware, but I just didn’t give a fuck. I wanted to make money, and that’s what I did. Looking back, I wouldn’t have made those decisions, but it’s a hell of a lot different and much easier to sanitize yourself after the fact.

Frank Lucas: I have remorse. I never sold nothing to a kid in the street, but I found out that my people had. I didn’t want to sell to kids. I didn’t want to make them junkies. I didn’t want to be a part of it.

I justify it by saying during my time, I couldn’t get a job on Wall Street, not even washing toilets. I went to school three days and the teacher wasn’t there two of them. I had to make a living. I didn’t want to be just a damn bum in the street. So that’s what I did.

Later they talked about hip-hop, Frank Lucas isn’t a fan, but he’s knows of Diddy.

Nicky Barnes: I never thought anything like this would happen. When hip-hop first started, everybody - I mean the music entrepreneurs - predicted that hip-hop would be dead in five years. They said, “Those motherfuckers ain’t gonna make no money.” But hip-hop rolled along, and look what they’re doing now. They got Jay-Z, Damon Dash, Kanye West, 50 Cent. These guys are doing something legitimate.

Frank Lucas: At least Nick knows the names. I don’t know none of them. I know Puffy Combs, because of his father.

Nicky Barnes: Oh, Melvin! Melvin Combs.

Frank Lucas: Melvin used to be at my house a couple of times a week. I’m proud to see Melvin’s son like that.

Puffy did say his father was in the streets. Even though he was killed early in his life, he said that’s where he got his hustler spirit from.

The best thing Puffy ever did was take that energy to hip-hop and the million other ventures he’s into.

Any cog in the music industry machine knows someone who got into hip-hop to be a manager, producer, promoter, rapper, or label owner. When the drug business got hectic or just dried up, a lot of them saw hip-hop as the place where the new ‘easy’ money was.

Azie talked about it, here you have Nicky Barnes and Frank Lucas lookin on. The cash, and the social life and material things it afforded, is what they really miss. There is no doubt they would love to be in Jay-Z, Diddy or even 50 Cent’s shoes.

Just keep the gun orders down to something like BB’s or Super Duper Soakers and they wouldn’t have to worry about Feds and snitches turning the lights on at the party.

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☼ What's Your Opinion? ☼

1 Fax Cain Wed, Oct 31, 2007 - 3:43 pm

Very interesting
I like this piece…thanks

2 Villa Thu, Nov 01, 2007 - 1:38 am

very ironic isn’t it.

Puffy’s dad has some kind of connection with these guys.

Unreal how the genes flow.

3 God Bless Thu, Nov 01, 2007 - 9:06 am

i find it very interesting that puffy’s dad was involved with these guys. i would like to read more about that. I don’t think they should be crtitized for selling drugs. The good thing about this is they know it was wrong and is willing to admit it. Everybody does something wrong in there life time but it takes a bigger person to admit they were wrong.

4 REALIT~CHEK Thu, Nov 01, 2007 - 10:20 am

ITS OBVIOUS, THE TRUE MEANING OF A “GANGSTER” ISNT JUST KIING, ITS HUSTLING. ITS BEING A “BUSINESS” OF YOUR OWN.
JAY-Z SAID…
“IM NOT A “BUSINESS MAN”, IM A “BUSINESS”, MAN, SO STAY THE FUK OUT OF MY BUSINESS MAN”
THATS GANGSTA!, OR SHOULD I SAY GANGSTER.
ITS ALL ABOUT THE APPROACH, NICE CLTHING, UPSCALE LIVING, ITS THE MANTALITY, IF PEOPLE TRY TO GET YOU FIRED ON THE JOB, WHAT DO YOU DO,..ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO TO KEEP IT, RIGHT? SAME THING IN THE STREETS MAN, IF SOMBODY TRIES TO TAKE YOUR MONEY AWAY, I GUESS YOU GOTTA GET RID OF EM’!

5 Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes Thu, Nov 01, 2007 - 12:37 pm

thay is old school g’es

6 Anthony Thu, Nov 01, 2007 - 2:47 pm

I first read about the Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes on http://www.globalgrind.com.  It was interesting.  I can’t wait to see “American Gangster.”

7 ewok Thu, Nov 01, 2007 - 4:21 pm

i bet they DO remember Puff’s daddy….ain’t no telling…

8 FrankieT.. Thu, Nov 01, 2007 - 6:33 pm

People shouldn’t be judged because how they live there lives. Not everyone in life makes the same decisions. Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes were black gangsters. They did what gangsters do. I saw the movie American Gangster. Great movie. I dont think people who start legitimate businesses could have come up with a scheme like Frank did. My point being is, just because the public makes these men out to be terrible people they are not. I have a family member who is a very popular figure and lived this type of lifestyle. He wasnt a bad person, he just chose a different life then what we are used to seeing.. Look at our government. The most corrupt group of people out there.

9 the enforcer south side califas Fri, Nov 02, 2007 - 5:02 pm

they did what they did and the police aided and abetted them. Or else how do you think they got to be so good at what they did? Greed is what motivated the whole enterprise and everyone got their share of the profit.

10 liljoe. minnesotas own Fri, Nov 02, 2007 - 5:58 pm

like john gotti frank lucas has made history and knowing that harm was done in the black community and many families were torn apart do to drugs and violence makes it worse, but its nice to see a black man able to hustle his way to the top and like T.I said “frank lucas isnt the only one that made a mill in a day” well in the 60’s and 70’s making a million dollars a day had to be like making a billion dollars a day so my hats off to the man that took what he knew best and changed the way hustlers view themselves!

11 Ja Rule Sat, Nov 03, 2007 - 9:09 pm

...some real idiots here who can’t even spell.

12 jay Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 2:13 am

damnnnn yo u my idle mannn u did what u had to do i mean if u were like denzel in the movie shyttttt mannn u had some balls….. yo0 f**k that they the junkies f**k em….but yo u did ur time thats the past u a brave dude mann

13 CHIEF 00 Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 2:45 am

SORRY TO HEAR THAT THESE WERE YOUR IDOLS. HOPE YOU GROW OUT OF THIS!!!

14 CDW Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 2:51 am

My hat is off to Frank Lucas. He is a genius in the way he actually started his business venture and with no education under his belt, he constructed his business plan to take have the best drug product on the market to a demanding audience, and he put that plan into action and ran with it. Although he caused much devastation in the community, he gave back in many ways but it was not enough to make up for the all of the deaths that was caused by the purest heroin none to man. Knowing what we know now and If we could turn back the hands of time and do things differently in our lives; Would we? and what would we do differently? I just hope if we could, we would realize the outcome of our actions.
Gog bless Mr. Lucas!!!

15 HALO FLUSHTOWN-SUN, NOV 04,2007- 1:55AM Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 2:56 am

WHO EVER IS THE LOUDEST ONE IN THE ROOM IS THE WEAKEST ONE IN THE ROOM!!!!!!FRANK LUCAS….CLASSIC FLIC

16 Crazy Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 5:42 pm

y’all are crazy…

i guess there’s no stoppin when you’re ahead.  can someone explain this to me?  you have a million dollars a day… why the hell can’t you just take your damn money and bounce one day.  just get the f**k out.  show up in brazil or something.  show up in europe.  i donno.  why is that so hard for people making a million a day?  frank lucas was a genius?  he was a dumbass.  he did all that work and he didn’t know when to pull out.  black people should not idolize a man who set them back at least two decades, and that’s coming straight from a white man.  take some pride in your shit and get up off the streets.  y’all have so much f**king talent it’s a shame to let white people hold anything over you.  i’m not even talking athletics y’all.  when it comes to social skills, no white man has as much skills as a black man.  these are the weapons y’all should be using.  Hip hop is one avenue, but why limit to just one thing?  Man, i’m gonna shut up now.  Just know that I have made respect for black people.  And it’s out of respect that I’m saying all this shit.

17 CHIEF 00 Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 6:11 pm

CRAZY, I FIRST HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO MY RACE. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SAYING. YOU ARE RIGHT ON POINT WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID. BUT SAD TO SAY WE ARE IN A LOSING BATTLE. TO MANY BLACKS IDOLIZE PEOPLE LIKE THIS, PEOPLE LIKE NEW YORK, PEOPLE LIKE THOSE TWO CHICKS WRITING BOOKS ABOUT WHO THEY F*CK. TO MANY BLACKS HAVE SUCH LOW STANDARDS. THEN WHEN SOMEONE LIKE ASHANTI OR LIL’ MOMMA ARE DOING HER THING WE START TO BASH HER. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WHITES AND OTHER RACES ARE LOOKING AT OUR COMMENTS AND LAUGHING AT US. SOME OF US ARE WONDERING WHY WE ARE TREATED THE WAY WE ARE. TAKE A LOOK AT ALOT OF THEIR COMMENTS ON THESE SITES. THANKS FOR THE LESSON CRAZY. WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE. GET SOME MORALS. START MAKING MUCH HIGHER GOALS THAN YOU HAVE!!!

18 Glyph56 Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 8:24 pm

IT IS SAD TO SEE THAT SOME OF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF THIS AND THE SETBACKS AND DAMAGE IT HAD CAUSED TO BLACK PEOPLE
THROUGHOUT THE 1970S.  I GREW UP IN NEW YORK, WENT TO SCHOOL IN HARLEM AND HAVE VERY VIVID MEMORIES OF MANY JUNKIES IN THE STREET STRUNG OUT ON HEROIN ALMOST DAILY AS I WAS COMING HOME FROM SCHOOL. MY OWN FATHER’S LIFE WAS DESTROYED BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THEM.  SAD TO SAY, BUT DOPE DEALERS LIKE FRANK LUCAS, FRANK MATTHEWS, NICKY BARNES, GUY FISHER, BAT AND PEE WEE KIRKLAND WERE NAMES MANY OF THE KIDS I GREW UP WITH GLAMORIZED.  I KNOW THAT SOME MIGHT SAY THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE JUST ABOUT MAKING MONEY AND THOSE WHO USED HAD A CHOICE, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE GROWN UP IN THE INNER CITY DURING THOSE TIMES TO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY MOST INNER CITY BLACKS WERE FACED WITH BACK THEN. I MADE SOME MISTAKES TOO, INCLUDING GETTING CAUGHT UP USING AND DEALING COCAINE BUT IM PROUD TO SAY THAT I KNEW WHEN TO STOP AND DO SOMETHING POSITIVE WITH MY LIFE.  AS A RESULT, I EARNED FOUR COLLEGE DEGREES, INCLUDING A PH.D FROM A PRESTIGIOUS UNIVERSITY. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE YET, BUT, AS MUCH AS I ADMIRE DENZEL WASHINGTON’S TALENT AS AN ACTOR, I HAVE TO QUESTION MY RESPECT FOR HIM AS A HUMAN BEING FOR EVEN ACCEPTING THIS ROLE, KNOWING THE DANGER OF A NEW GENERATION POSSIBLY GLAMORIZING THESE DOPE DEALERS. IMHO, THERE IS NOTHING THAT GUYS LIKE LUCAS AND BARNES COULD EVER DO TO REDEEM THEMSELVES FOR THE DAMAGE THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

19 Mark Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 8:41 pm

I work at a drug rehab and see the results of these mens “business” every day.  There is nothing good or to be proud of at making money off f other pain and weakness.

20 CHIEF 00 Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 10:16 pm

MARK, I KNOW THAT YOU DON’T NEED MY BLESSINGS BUT KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND DO THE WORK THAT YOU DO. THANK YOU.

21 stoopidmunkiez Sun, Nov 04, 2007 - 11:55 pm

you people are all a bunch of illiterate f**ks

22 CHIEF 00 Mon, Nov 05, 2007 - 12:08 am

STOOPIDMUNKIEZ, YOUR MOTHER IS A F*CKING ILLITERATE. GO F*CK A DONKEY THAT IS WHAT YOUR PEOPLE DO ANYWAY. STAY BEHIND YOUR KEYS CAUSE YOU AIN’T A REAL MAN. WRONG SITE, GO TO BEASTIALITY WHERE YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE.

23 Plesae Tue, Nov 06, 2007 - 1:05 am

Can we all get along!

24 ab Wed, Nov 07, 2007 - 2:51 am

get in get out, that is the goal from what i here. they just could n t get out

25 Big Ride Thu, Nov 08, 2007 - 9:07 pm

I saw the movie and could not believe that a man from NC with no education could run an organization the way he did.  I do fault Frank Lucas for aiding w/ the destruction of the Black community, but he is not the only one that should be blamed.  If the movie was accurate I ask how could the U.S. Government allow Frank Lucas to travel to a war zone and meet with heroin suppliers. It would be like me traveling to Afaganistan meeting with the Taliban and bringing heroin back to Chicago.  Can’t do it myself w/o the assistance of others ie (US military).  With that said I ask what happened to the solders who were assisting w/ Lucas’s operation? To top this drug problem every community has to stand up and be held accountable for this epidemic that this country faces, from the dealers to the old lady who look out her window but says I don’t want to get involved.  Drugs crosses racial borders and until people stop labeling it as a problem associated w the black community the true criminals will continue to fly under the radar and many more Frank Lucas’s will be made out to be the singular casuse.  Lastly,  to th moron who stated Denzel should hae not made this movie because it glorifies Frank Lucas, I disagree If anyting it shows how much of a devil Lucas was and if you don’t have enough sense to watch a movie and w/o killing sum one then u should stay at home.

26 crazy Fri, Nov 09, 2007 - 12:44 am

i’m glad this forum exists… despite all the name calling and cussing, i feel like everyone has a chance to speak their mind.  i agree with you big ride, this problem goes way beyond the black population.  what really happens behind the closed doors of politicians?  it’s all about the money right?  that’s so obvious, but what pisses me off is that these people still wear their suits and try to sucker us into thinking that they have our best interest in mind.  what a load of crap! i wish that we could run this country with a little more honesty.  nobody ever says what they mean.  everybody’s just being proper.  everyone wants to keep a dogleash on the power that they have and not share anything with anybody else.  those who aren’t doing anything about the drug problem are not going to do anything about it in the future.  it’s up to middle class people who work hard to make a living to step up and do something about the rich people.  i’m killing myself to get rich one day, but when i get there, i’m not gonna step on others to get richer.  i’m gonna do my best to bring others up.  is that what others in this forum would do or am i just smoking some high quality crack?

27 Glyph56 Sat, Nov 10, 2007 - 3:04 pm

Big Ride Im not going to stoop to your level and retaliate with the name calling without seeing the movie and making a sound judgement.  However, if you had any kind of sense of reality whatsoever you would know that Hollywood could give less than a damn about morals that impacts and reflects upon the black community and it is all about money- I could be wrong but I feel that Denzel’s main motivation to make this movie was about how much he got paid. Though he might have had some concern about his position as a role model and how this movie might influence black youth, he probably could not clearly anticipate the full reality of its possible end result.  I work with inner city kids and understand how they misperceive these things and the caution than needs to be taken into consideration.  If you understood what I said previously, I mentioned that there is “a danger of a generation glamorizing characters like Lucas”-just open your eyes, read some of the previous posts on this board and you will see what I mean.

28 Barry B Sun, Nov 11, 2007 - 8:31 pm

Loved the movie ...and now I see first hand how they change things in movies to make them more dramatic.My grandmother and mother knew frank well..he use to come to cookouts at our home…he even took me to the store to buy me toys..but we never,never knew what he did for a living. I’m waitin for my grandmother to send the pictures so I can post them on myspace.

29 bgc Tue, Nov 13, 2007 - 9:54 pm

would love to hear more about Melvin and Janice and that whole love affair that resulted in one of the most ridiculous icons the black race has ever known… I say ridiculous because of his personality and how he lives his life and how he got where he is today.. nothing ridiculous about that money though!

30 dishonest Wed, Nov 14, 2007 - 6:32 am

Melvin Combs was already deceased when Lucas is talking about him coming to his home bring his son Sean. On Kiss radio Lucas lied saying at the fight when he wore the famous coat and hat the women with him in the photograph ran up take a picture.  That was Billie Mays his girlfriend at that time.

31 jayw Sun, Nov 18, 2007 - 3:44 pm

man, half of you people need to get some kind of religion!  lucas and barnes were psychopaths, and contributed to thousands of black deaths; contributed to another generation of Harlem black people in dire poverty; and the new interest in these two punks will now contribute to another legion of black psychopaths wanting to emulate them.

  (The Klan may as well be posting on this thread for all the harm many of you are doing.)

32 CHIEF 00 Sun, Nov 18, 2007 - 6:05 pm

JAYW, YOU ARE RIGHT ON POINT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE BLACK AMERICA THAT WE LIVE IN TODAY. TOO MANY YOUTHS ARE IDOLIZING THUGS. TOO MANY YOUNG SINGLE MOTHERS ARE IDOLIZING VIDEO HO’S. HOW DO WE FIX THIS? I WONDER….

33 THINK ABOUT IT Sun, Nov 18, 2007 - 9:00 pm

MR.LUCAS WAS PART OF THE COINTEL PROGRAM. IT IS STATED THAT WE R A PEOPLE OF GREED TAUGHT TO OUR PEOPLE FROM SLAVERY.(WILLY LINCH).. HE WAS PIMPED BY THE US GOVERMENT.THE MAN WAS LEAD RIGHT 2 THE TRAP. THEY KNEW OF HIS MOVEMENTS ALL ALONE. HE COULDNT HAVE MADE THOSE POWER MOVES WITHOUT ASSISTANCE OF THE GOVERMENT..WAKE UP N C HOW WE ALL R BEING PIMP,BY FURTHING THIS WHITE MAN WORLD.. WE CONSUME NOT PRODUCE WE DONT EVEN MAKE TOILET PAPER TO WIPE OUR ON TAILS.. MR. LUCAS WAS DEAD WRONG BUT WE CAN LEARN ALOT FROM STUDYING HOW HE UNCONDITIONALLY WENT AN GOT IT

34 White Boy Mon, Nov 19, 2007 - 7:15 pm

ChiefOO had it right….white people are reading this and while I’m not laughing I do feel like crying. Psychopaths like Lucas and Barnes have set the black race back YEARS. While the hip hop artists today might not be the killers that Lucas and Barnes were, they are doing far greater damage since they reach and influence a far greater audience which is comprised mainly of black youth. Last night I watched the music awards and most every rapper who came on stage wore the same costume.  Baggy clothing, a ridiculous hunk of gold around their necks and dark sunglasses. They took the stage with the same pathetic swagger and attitude. They are clones of one another with little to no originality between them. The same is true of so much of their music and videos. Women shaking their asses while the “artist” is behind the wheel of a Bentley and rapping about how “bad” he is. It’s pathetic to the point of being comical. They are clowns for our amusement. Unfortunately these people either don’t realize or simply don’t care about the damage they are doing to the black community. Black people have to respect themselves before they will command the respect of the world.  BTW, that’s not to say white people are not f**ked up in our own way…we definitely are.

35 shawn Tue, Nov 20, 2007 - 8:54 pm

man…. theoretically these guys did the right and the wrong. They knew that what they were doing was wrong but it was something that they could have gotten away with. the times of dirty cops are just as bad as these two heroin deealers in my books. frank was a good man and true to his words the dirty pigs in those days were f**kin two faced either good guys are bad guys are sellin that shit no matter which way you look at it.

36 glasgow Wed, Nov 21, 2007 - 5:03 pm

Movie was great!

37 A HARLEM GIRL Thu, Nov 22, 2007 - 12:42 pm

I was raised in Harlem and lived through this period of time.  In that exact neighborhood that the shot this movie in.  I went to see the movie not because Barnes and Lucas should be glorified, but because it did tell the story of a time that we lived through as Black’s and it is not often that anyone tells our stories.  I think, overall, it was good to see the devastation that drugs did to our community, hopefully all of of will strive to never let something like this happen again.  The money, the clubs and the success is absolutely irrelevant!  As a people we have to be stronger and help our brothers and sisters out when anyone, whether they are black, the govt. or whoever come into our communitis and destroy them.

38 Jay-Bo Wed, Nov 28, 2007 - 11:32 pm

It was a good movie but understand, the movie was made to educate the masses. Because please believe there are people right now doing that shit for real. And that’s scarey because some of them actually do have the governments help getting it and moving it

39 DUBAI BOY Sat, Dec 01, 2007 - 3:15 pm

I THING Frank Lucas MADE HIS OWN CHOSEE

40 Da 1 Nd Only Faero Thu, Dec 06, 2007 - 5:22 pm

Man… Frank Lucas was nothing but a punk. Yes, he was very intelligent, real ballsy, and knew how to make money but, when he got caught he snitched out mad amount of people. If he was a real “American Gangster” he would’ve served his 70 years instead of snitching like a little b!tch. He was just a skeeving little rat. Also, from what I’ve read on Bumpy Johnson, he was a LIAR. Mayme Johnson, Bumpy’s widow, claims Bumpy never even trusted Frank and that Frank had only driven Bumpy around on a couple, maybe a few, occasions. She also says that Frank was not present at the time of Bumpy’s death. So, in a way, I guess I look up to Lucas because of his intelligence and dedication but, more so, I look down on him for his lies and snitching.
I’ve also got something to say to you who think he was a horrible person. I guess you could call me a small time drug dealer. I just deal with ecstasy and weed but, if someone O.D.s on some X is that my fault? HELL NO. They decided to buy it not me. Whether I sell it or not someone else will and that’s life. Shit happens. So, I’m gonna continue to make my money. People die everyday. People die in car accidents. Does that make car manufacturers horrible people? No. I’ve learned to say f(_)ck everyone else and only worry about you and yours because if you don’t then somebody’s gonna f(_)ck you. Though, if I get caught, I most definitely won’t go telling who buys from me or who I buy from. Just so you all know, I’m black too so don’t think I’m just some racist idiot talking sh!t. I could care less whether you’re white, black, brown, yellow, or purple. Well, that’s all I’ve got to say because you all probably couldn’t care less and you can criticize me all you want but, no matter what you say I’m going to continue doing what I do and I’d recommend you all do the same. Do what you have to to make your money and live happy… and f(_)ck the rest.

41 To Faero Thu, Dec 06, 2007 - 8:56 pm

Can’t you find a job instead of selling drugs. You sound like a smart guy but all you think about is getting paid illegally and living the “street life.” You look down on Frank for snitching people can look down on you for your choices in life. That wasn’t smart for you to openly admit that you sell drugs over the computer. What the hell was you thinking? Some things you can keep to your self. I agree with you when you say f**k everybody cause everybody is going to f**k you but there are intelligent ways to go about that saying. Get off the streets and get a job. Stop admitting to selling drugs on the internet fool. You said that you are black only a black man would admit to a crime over the computer. This is also coming from a black man, get smart. GET A JOB!

42 FAERO Fri, Dec 07, 2007 - 2:46 am

#1 I have a job but, I make even more money selling drugs so, why not? #2 Who’s gonna track this? This would NEVER, EVER! EVER! Stick in court much less even get a warrant or anything even close to that. There is no possible way I could be tracked so… why not post what I want here? This is a place where I’m almost completely anonymous so why would I not say the things I feel like saying? Even if I was to get “tracked” by some very very minute chance, which would never happen, at least not by anybody who matters but, if it ever did happen, then all they’d get is my house I am not the only one who lives in my house, I live with 5 other people. So, If for some reason somebody hired investigators to come scope out my house because somebody from this address posted an internet forum that they sell drugs small time, then yes, I guess I would be screwed but, other than that… No. Well, I feel I’ve made my point.

So, F(_)CK YOU AS WELL.

43 TO FAERO.... Mon, Dec 10, 2007 - 3:15 pm

WAKE YOUR DUMB ASS UP-YOU ARE AN EXAMPLE OF A SIMPLE ASSED IGNORANT FOOL AND AN EMBARRASSMENT TO BLACK PEOPLE-HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU MAKE AN ANALOGY BETWEEN CAR MANUFACTURERS AND DOPE DEALERS-CARS ARE A NECESSITY WHILE ILLEGAL DRUGS ARE NOT-AND YES IT IS YOUR FAULT IF SOMEONE OD’S FOR PUTTING SOMETHING OUT THERE LIKE LUCAS DID TO DESTROY LIVES FOR YOUR OWN GREEDY AND SELFISH REASONS-AND ON TOP OF IT ALL BRAGGING ABOUT SELLING DOPE OVER THE INTERNET-NOBODY REALLY CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU TO SAY HERE SO JUST CRAWL YOUR DUMB SNAKE ASS BACK UP IN THE HOLE YOU CAME FROM SHUT THE F*CK UP, STOP F*CKING UP OTHER PEOPLES LIVES WITH YOUR SELF CENTERED BULLSHIT AND STOP SETTING BLACK PEOPLE BACK EVEN FURTHER.

44 CHIEF 00 Mon, Dec 10, 2007 - 5:07 pm

FAERO, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE LAST POST. YOU ARE SETTING US BACK WITH YOUR BRAGGING ABOUT SELLING DRUGS. KEEP THAT SHIT TO YOURSELF. IF YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE UNTRACABLE YOU ARE STUPID AND JUST KEEP SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR JAIL TIME. AS ONE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE UP HERE HAS STATED GET SMART, YOU SAY THAT YOU HAVE A JOB SO GET ANOTHER AND STOP SELLING DRUGS.

45 LoL - - - - Faero Mon, Dec 10, 2007 - 6:22 pm

WTF. Who made cars a necessity all of a sudden? You were born with legs and for those who weren’t too f**king bad. Cars are a privilege to have just like drugs are. If people want to use drugs then who am I to tell them not to? Who are you to tell them drugs are bad? Who is anybody to decide what is good or bad for us? Weed makes me feel pretty good yet, people want us to believe it is bad? Yes, maybe it does have some negative affects on your body but, what doesn’t? According to you cars are a necessity, right? Well, I believe cars are as much a necessity as cell phones are… and haven’t cell phones been proven to have negative affects on your body after long-term usage? Should cell phones be made illegal? That’s my question for you. Why don’t you answer some of these questions I’m asking? All you keep saying is how drugs are bad and how I’m a bad person for selling them but, you’ve failed to answer even one of my questions with FACTS and I’ve managed to come up with a reasonable argument for all of your statements and/or questions. So, you tell me who the simple minded person here really is and I want you, as well as anybody else reading this, to answer that question honestly. Also, I am not “bragging” about selling “dope” because dope is not what I sell, I sell X. I am simply stating that I sell drugs, that is very different than bragging. Apparently, you do care what I have to say because I am getting quite a response/reaction out of you and, though I am not, I could be completely lying about everything I’m saying but, you’d still be here wasting your time on this board and you will probably continue to come back to see if I’ve said anything new. So, according to you, I will continue to be a self-centered snake and set black people back “EVEN” further.
Now, as for you CHIEF 00, I will not waste much time on you because, from what I’ve read, you don’t seem like a very intelligent person anyways but, if you think I am traceable then you are stupid and just setting yourself up to get slapped for making ridiculous remarks.

46 CHIEF 00 Mon, Dec 10, 2007 - 10:13 pm

THE MORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH THE DUMBER YOU SOUND. LIKE I SAID BEFORE JUST KEEP SPEWING OUT YOUR ILLEGAL ACTS AND YOU WILL BE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO MIKE VICK YOU DUMB ASS. SLAP ME, YOU BETTER WAKE YOUR DUMB ASS UP!!! ARE YOU REALLY STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK THAT X, AND WEED ARE NECESSARY? PEOPLE ON THIS COMMENT BOARD ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU FROM LOOKING LIKE THE FOOL THAT YOU LOOK LIKE BUT YOU KEEP WRITING IN AND LOOKING LIKE THE ASS THAT YOU ARE. THEIR IS NO HELP FOR IDIOTS LIKE YOU SO YOU JUST KEEP BEING THE “SMALL TIME” DRUG DEALER THAT YOU ARE AND SOON YOU WILL BE SOMEBODYS BITCH IN JAIL. AS FOR ME BEING INTELLIGENT, PEOPLE SMARTER THAN YOUR STUPID ASS WORK FOR ME SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BRAINS ARE BETWEEN YOU AND ME, I RUN OFFICES, YOU STAND OUT IN THE COLD AND SELL DRUGS FOR SOMEONE ELSE DUMMY. ONLY SOMEONE AS BRAIN DEAD AS YOUR DUMB ASS WILL BRAG ABOUT ILLEGAL ACTS OVER THE INTERNET AND BE STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK THAT THEY COULDN’T GET CAUGHT. REMEMBER THE SHOW TO CATCH A PREDATOR? ALL THE GUYS CAUGHT ON THAT SHOW WERE CAUGHT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY WROTE ON THE INTERNET IDIOT. MAN ARE YOU SO STUPID. LIKE I SAID BEFORE GET A JOB YOU STUPID F*CK INSTEAD OF MAKING MONEY FOR YOUR PIMP IDIOT. LET ME GUESS YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU SELL DRUGS THAT YOU CAN SCARE SOMEONE? NOT HERE YOU PUNK. SHUT THE F*CK UP YOU POT HEAD. YOU ARE PROBABLY TO HIGH TO TRY TO F*CK WITH ME. THAT IS WHY YOU WRITE THIS STUPID SHIT. THIS IS YOUR BRAIN….. THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGS…. ANY QUESTIONS RETARD!!!

47 Faero Tue, Dec 11, 2007 - 3:08 pm

You’ve proven to me that you are an idiot. Apparently you can’t read because I never said X was a necessity. As a matter of fact, I clearly stated that it is a privilege but, it seems you are too stupid to understand that. Now, if you think I sell drugs for somebody else you are taking me for a fool. Also, if you think I stand in the cold you are a fool because I sit in my nice cozy house and wait for people to call me, which they always do. Once again, somebody has failed to answer even one of my questions or even have an argument for any of my comments or replies. As far as prison goes, yes, I might end up there one day but, not any time soon and I can guarantee I will be nobodies “bitch.” It is the life I choose to live, a good life but, it could end at any moment and everything I’ve worked for will be gone but, that is the risk I take. One day I will stop, hopefully before I get caught up but, until then I will continue to do what I do no matter what you or anybody else thinks about it. Chief 00, this will be the last time I reply to anything you say because you keep proving that you are an illiterate, nonsensical, fool who, apparently, gets his facts from the television. Yes, I do have a question. Do you feel dumb now that you have tried, twice, and failed to make me look like an idiot? We have different p.o.v. that is the fact of it. That is no reason to judge somebody. I can assure you that there are drug-dealers out there that are more intelligent and more successful than you, me, or anybody who, supposedly, works for you. Think about that and tell me I’m wrong. If you do think I’m wrong then you truly are witless and you fail to see the
“big picture.”

48 dont be fooled by a fool Tue, Dec 11, 2007 - 5:33 pm

Dont you all get it?-this idiot is either lying or exaggerating about what he does just to get attention here.  He will just deny it, but think about it-how many real dope dealers would even find the time to waste or be stupid enough to make comments here to incriminate themselves?-Just ignore him-a real drug dealer cant possibly be that stupid.

49 CHIEF 00 Tue, Dec 11, 2007 - 10:11 pm

TO THE COMMENT ABOVE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT I THINK THAT DUMB ASS FAERO IS A “SMALL TIME” DEALER. HE IS THAT STUPID TO BROADCAST HIS ILLEGAL ACTIONS OVER THE INTERNET. YOU ARE RIGHT THOUGH HE IS NOT A REAL DRUG DEALER. HE SURE IS DUMB THOUGH. NOW TO DUMB-DUMB (FAERO) I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO POST ANOTHER COMMENT, YOU FINALLY ARE STARTING TO GET IT THOUGH YOU WON’T ADMIT IT. DRUGS AREN’T A NECESSITY OR A PRIVILEGE. YOU WANT SOMEONE TO ARGUE YOUR POINTS, THE REASON NOBODY HAS ARGUED AGAINST YOUR POINTS IS BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT YOUR SO-CALLED POINTS AND SAYING THAT THIS CLOWN IS THE DUMBEST ASS AND I AIN’T WASTING MY TIME ARGUING WITH THIS ASS. WHY WOULD ANYONE ARGUE WITH A N IDIOT THAT IS BROADCASTING TO THE COPS ALL THE ILLEGAL SHIT THAT HE DOES. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOUR DUMB ASS AND YOU JUST KEEP BRAGGING ABOUT THE $25 A WEEK THAT YOU MAKE. NOW YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU SELL DRUGS FOR YOURSELF, THAT IS MORE EVIDENCE AGAINST YOUR DUMB ASS. THATS RIGHT, JUST KEEP ON PUTTING MORE EVIDENCE OUT THERE FOR THE COPS IDIOT! YOUR DUMB ASS IS GOING TO END UP IN JAIL AND YOU SOUND JUST LIKE THE LOUD MOUTH DUMMY THAT WILL BE “TOSSING SOMEBODYS SALAD.” STOP USING THE WORDS SUCCESS AND DRUG DEALERS IN THE SAME SENTENCE THEY DON’T GO TOGETHER. IF YOU ACHIEVE SOMETHING ILLEGALLY THAT IS NOT SUCCESSFUL. HOW DUMB ARE YOU? I BET YOUR STUPID ASS DIDN’T EVEN MAKE IT TO HIGH SCHOOL. I REALLY HOPE YOU DON’T MAKE ANYMORE POST SO THAT YOU WILL STOP INCRIMINATING YOURSELF ANYMORE THAN YOU ALREADY HAVE. EVEN THE COPS ARE READING THIS AND SAYING “WOW, WHAT A DUMB ASS NIGGA.” BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU ARE A SUPER DUMB ASS SMALL TIME DRUG DEALER WITH THE IQ OF A MONKEY. GET A JOB BITCH!!

50 To Faero Mon, Dec 24, 2007 - 10:22 pm

Haven’t heard from you. Is your dumb ass locked up. I knew that you were setting yourself to go to jail. Hope you learned your lesson dummy. I guess that you are somebodys bitch in jail now! lol!!!

51 Jake the Snake Fri, Jan 18, 2008 - 2:13 pm

I happen to know Faero personally and guess what… He is locked up. So to everyone that thinks it’s ok to put your illegal business over the internet watch out or become Faero.

52 LoL.... Faero Mon, Jan 21, 2008 - 5:53 pm

You all are idiots… Haha I’ve got people making rumors about me now I guess. Sorry everybody… I have a life and don’t spend all my time on the computer much less on this site.

53 JTS Mon, Jan 21, 2008 - 10:07 pm

Somebody wrote that for Faero. I know for a fact that he is in jail.

54 The Real FAERO Wed, Jan 23, 2008 - 5:10 pm

Well. I’m glad to see I made some sort of impact in you people. I’ve got people impersonating me, claiming to know me, and spreading rumors about me. It’s really amusing actually. I admit I did not expect so much feed-back. I guess I should keep up my current reputation and let you all know what I’ve really been up to. I’ve just been doing the same things I used to except, I decided to stop selling weed and stick strictly to XTC. I still smoke the weed, of course but, I learned that selling it is useless if your going to smoke it. Now, as for the XTC, it’s a great product, I’m now selling it in much bulkier numbers and I’m making more money than I ever have. I know I said I would leave no more comments but, I saw everyone’s response and couldn’t resist. Just to let you all know I have not been incarcerated at all, like some have claimed. Well, I suppose that’s all from me for now. I’ll check back here maybe in a couple weeks or so to see what people have to say about me.

55 I REPEAT Thu, Jan 24, 2008 - 1:34 am

That is not Faero he is locked up. He must be sending these messages through someone else. That dumb ass nigga is in jail, trust me I know. We told you (Faero) we tried to help you but you stuck your foot in your mouth now you are in jail. Stop making these stories up about what you sell unless you are selling this stuff in jail. ASS PACKER.

56 Tracy O Thu, Feb 21, 2008 - 3:02 am

I wanna know is that guy Faero really locked up? If he is he deserved it. He should have never put his self on front street like that. I hope that he figured out that he was stupid for doing that.

57 TO FAERO Thu, Apr 03, 2008 - 12:35 am

Damn man you are still locked up. I told you f**kin’ dumb ass that you should have kept your trap shut now you mouth is open all the time with all that d*ck in it. I think that you have ate enough cum to have taught you a lesson. When you get out I hope that you will SHUT YOUR F*CKING MOUTH NOW idiot.

58 FAERO Thu, May 01, 2008 - 2:45 am

I admit I did some time. Everybody was right. If you are doing illegal stuff keep it off the computer. Thanks for the tough love guys. I have learned my lesson. I am out now and I am going to turn m life around. It’s crazy in there. If you don’t have to, don’t go.

59 hahahahaah Sat, May 24, 2008 - 2:29 am

haha you people are dumb as f**k, it takes way more than a commment over the Internet to be convicted of selling drugs, I could lie and say I make meth in my basement, am I going to jail for saying shit like that? No you f**king retard, leave faero or whoever alone

60 To the ass above Sat, May 24, 2008 - 8:25 pm

First off f**k Faero, that f*** shouldn’t come on the f**kin’ internet spewing out his illegal doings for everyone including the law to see. Yes, it does take more, not way more, to get your dumb ass arrested but that sure is a starting point. He is one of the most ignorant NIGGERS I have ever heard and yes, I did call that bastard a n***r. That is why he is locked up now. Fuck leaving him alone I hope his retarded, small bus riding ass learns his f**kin’ lesson while he is getting f**ked in jail. BTW, I called him a n***r and I am black so this ain’t no race thing, it is a stupid n***r thing and that he is.

61 real person Fri, Mar 25, 2011 - 3:40 am

SHUT UP you fagget faero you don’t sell nothing your fake..FAGGET.. get smart you idiots recognize fake people. Like FAERO.. And stop trying to be MLKS your not

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