It’s No Secret: Five Things I Learned About Carmen Bryan
1. Even Men That Don’t Know Her Fight Over Her Stuff
“Nope. It’s sold out,” the bookstore clerk said looking at the computer terminal. He gives me a smirk like, ‘you’re reading that crap?’ Hey, I can’t believe it myself. The chance to grab it 1/2 price had a lot to do with it, but now I want to read it, so I’m resigned to having to pay full price for it at B&N.
On the way out Jon Leguizamo’s “Pimps, Hos, Playa Hatas, and All the Rest of my Hollywood Friends” caught my eye. Shrugged and took it as a consolation prize, guess I’ll read this crap.
Five steps towards the register and the same clerk runs from behind a display case, “Hey, wait!” He walks up to a guy with.. the book. “Is this it?,” he asked. “Yeah.” Snatches it out of the guy’s hands and gives it to me. The guy is standing there dumbfounded. I’m thinking, that’s really fucked up. Store clerk smiles and starts straightening some books, “it’s yours.” I look at the bookless guy, still holding his hands in the air. “Were you buying it?” I asked him. Store clerk jumps in, “No he wasn’t, take it.” Looking at the guy again.. he says, “If I touch it again, I’m keeping it.” I’m trying to figure out why dude straight ripped the book from his hands to give it to me.. but dude’s not about to touch it again. And then you say to yourself.. if he did would we really be fighting over a book?
A lot like Nas and Jay-Z, if you have Carmen tell it, their rap battle was really about Jay-Z wanting her. Little comments to dig at Nas’ spine. When she accepted Nas’ engagement ring Jay’s jealousy flowed over and as the baby seat line showed, got out of control. It’s yours, it’s mine. It’s yours.. Yeah, it’s mine. bookless guy worked there, he was reading on store time.
2. Not a Groupie or Video Chick
She mentions this in the book, “Nas, you made me seem like a groupie you met in the club and knocked up on a humble.” People tend to think that she jumped on Nas when the records (singular?) went platinum. I was one of them. Turns out she knew him before Illmatic dropped, before he was a star and once lived with him and his mother in Queensbridge projects. Inviting a friend over to see the tube sock dish rag and roach frozen in the ice tray, sticking with him through the struggle and lethargy, her friends saying he didn’t have any money, a nothing, while she was working and paying bills.. that’s not a groupie chick.
3. Iverson Wore It Out, Jay-Z Calls Her Name, Wood Harris Not So Much
When Jay-Z delivered the 1 album every 10 year average line, many of us nodded our heads, but Carmen really puts it into perspective when she talks about Nas’ studio habits and penchant for hanging out with his people. He comes off as talented but unfocused, possessive, jealous and generally a real prize for Kelis. They fought constantly, he’s dealing with fame and money in and outs, all that going on how could he be making classic albums? A lot of his hanging out was probably Dr. Knockboots getting his degree.. Carmen said Nas wants to live by his father’s creed, “The only time two people are obligated to be committed is when they are married. Goes for a man or a woman. In other words, if you’re not married, it’s cool to do your thing.” That’s Nas’ father talking.
So when she suspects Nas of cheating.. she did too.. Jay-Z, AI, *insert names left out*
Nas cheating or not, she did a whole lot of cheating and lying of her own. While she’s pissed off about Foxy Brown and Wendy Williams airing her ‘relationship’ with Allen Iverson on the radio, bringing Nas into the ‘shit ain’t true, what a bitch’ chant.. whenever Iverson was in town (or called) she was tripping over shit to get to the hotel for another 6-7 round session. “I needed a battery to keep up with the energetic Bubba chuck.” Funny thing is she made a comment about Iverson turning out to be an asshole at the end of the day. He knew he was hitting Nas’ girl. What did she expect? To him she’s this week’s jumpoff.. ‘Where do we play on Saturday?’
Did she purposely try to make Jay-Z sound like a big ol softie? Got out the whip cream and he was calling my name; playing snuggle bunnies and ‘boo berries’; acting confident but has a lot of insecurities and was completely crushed when she told him she was gonna marry Nas. As she tells it, Jay thought she would leave Nas and they were gonna get married. Sex or not, she liked the annoyingly referenced SC as a friend. She’s probably just spitting the truth about any quirky (human) behavior, their times together sound like what you’d find behind doors with Jay-Z and ‘bad breath’ Beyonce - that was a stab, no doubt. Read the book. She also mentions running into Wood Harris on some road and the brief time they spent together. He’s the ‘free/spiritual’ perfect compliment to her personality. Kinda like a shout out, “Hey, call me.”.
4. Hasn’t Worked Since..
While Nas was still Nasir she worked at Def Jam and then Capitol Records somewhere along the line she stopped working and Nas seemingly paid for rent, car notes and eventually child support. Their relationship crumbles, he’s with Kelis, still wants and is messing with her though (Carmen/Kelis sandwich).. and she’s still depending on him for money. Child support is one thing, but I’m flying into a rage when she’s talking about her rent and the car note he never paid. Can someone say J-O-B? After hearing about her Def Jam start, I expected she’d talk about some new and better position in the industry she’s currently holding down. Maybe she is doing something now, but it wasn’t mentioned. With store clerks walking around reading the book on the job, she’s definitely gonna have book royalties to flip through and maybe her acting/screenwriting dream will materialize. Curtis Jackson might be able to help there as he does his own Hollywood hobnobbing.. check the acknowledgments. “I’d like to especially thank 50! Your words of wisdom, kindness and encouragement made this all possible.”
Any surprise he’s aligning against his ‘enemies’ and her enemies aligned against her?
5. A Bitch With A Problem
In an off-the-cuff moment Carmen mentioned that she and a guy named Hasan collaborated in a rap group called Bitches With Problems.“Hasan decided to form a female rap group. Of course his position was to play the back. We called ourselves BWP. Hasan knew that I couldn’t rap, but he insisted that my look was marketable, so I just went along with it. Our image was supposed to be a hard-core group, but my delivery wasn’t giving that impression. I sounded more like Molly from AT&T customer service or something. I just wasn’t making the cut. We hung in there as long as we could, but the group eventually broke up and that was the end of may rap career.”
Anyone that knows a thing about late 80’s - early 90’s hip-hop heard and loved “Two Minute Brother.” That was a hot record. I didn’t buy it - one of the blank spots in the collection. Looking around the web there were no group pictures (or YouTube videos) either. I have an old Source magazine laying around somewhere, but that found web picture will have to do for now.
She’s the chick in red. The girl with the Timbs did most of the rapping though. “Two Minute Brother”“Two Minute Brother” (MP3 7.2 mb)
The low-rated book: It’s No Secret: From Nas to Jay-Z, from Seduction to Scandal
☼ What's Your Opinion? ☼
Now I am not one to down anyone but um.. I thought superhead had covered this type of stuff.. oh wait now we get the baby momma version of the same thing.. and basically she was used just the same as superhead.. except she doesnt have the nickname.. but who gives a damn about the old feud between nas and JAY-Z now… she should had come out with this a few years ago.. but now?? stupid!!
And these five things you learned about Carmen Bryan taught you what?...Thats she not a video ho? Good for her!!!*end sarcasm*
She is still playing the stereotype of an angry, sexually promiscuous black woman that dominate our airwaves(and now our bookshelves). I, for one, is not going to put money in her pocket to read about some old feud and shit that she that she more than likely made-up to boost book sales. She is the female version of Kevin Federline. Living off of her ex-husband success.
...can anyone send me a copy of this book?...my coffee table tends to lean a bit too much to the left and it just irks me so much!. Thanks much.
Sorry!.. Who is the Carmen?? I am completely lost on this whole story…
So, we got another Karrine Stephans..As a matter of fact. IT came across the news this morning that she has 3 more raunchy books coming out on the more men that she slept with. Also, Now.. back to this.. Who is this Carmen????
I remember BWP on the Phil Donahue show. Were there pictures in the book?
Where are they selling this… before the release date?
I think she was the light-skinned on in BWP.. but she always had a ponytail.. go to youtube to verify!!
...can anyone send me a copy of this book?...my coffe table tends to lean a bit too much to the left and it just irks me so much!. Thanks much
^^^^ LMBAO!!!!!!!!
Chris can you tell me what is going on with the Jay-Z and Beyonce rumors?
I don’t understand why people ae being so hard on this woman? She is writing a book, so what. Nas and Jay made songs about her, she always wanted to be a writer/ and this is her chance to try her hand at it. She is telling her story, so what is she suppose to hide? The book is about her life so she is going to tell the good, bad, and ugly.
she found out that people like to read dirty language just like that stupid corin chick with all of her celebrity groupies…ppl read it and love the dirt on the stars but it really isn’t that serious…but for real when does one realise that being promiscuous will give you Aids or some other type of disease? Peace y’all Black Power!
ok to me there is no justification on writing a book on the “famous” peeps you den slept with.. we all know it happens.. who cares? with the sexual diseases going around my god. do these women have no conscience? whateva.. I would like for a male groupie to write a tell all book!! shoot women can do it so can man!!
It sounds to me that either she had very low self-esteem to sleep with all these men or she is just another whore who do not think about the consequences behind her actions. (STD, Embarassment, etc) Did she think about her child and what she going to tell people when they ask her, So, your mom is the girl that slept with all those celebrities (willingly)? What is she teaching her child?
It’s a shame that these obviously bright, young black women choose to exploit themselves. However, these celebrities, especially rappers need to understand that they are the ones promoting the “rich and famous” lifestyle. These girls just want a piece of it and will obtain it by any means necessary-the same way Jay-Z & Nas rap about getting their money on! If they had conducted themselves appropriately in the first place, there would be no story!
Bought the book two-days ago, am on my 3rd read! I have to admit the thought of having sex with these brotha’s definitely peeks my interest. Especially, Allen Iverson. Can you imagine looking into those beautiful eyes and that body of his???!!! Are you kidding me? I wasnt so much interested in Carmen’s life, but was interested in hearing how these guys “put it down”. As for why Carmen chose to write the book, who cares! She is handling our business. Black women are being exploited daily on MTV and even BET….why should we (as sisters) continue to be loyal to them. Where is their loyalty?
“Black women are being exploited daily on MTV and even BET….why should we (as sisters) continue to be loyal to them. Where is their loyalty?”
This isn’t about being loyal to Jiggaman and Nas. F*ck them. This is about being loyal to herself. Have this b*tch ever heard of having integrity? What about pride?
And this b*tch should be on her knees(that’s a position she’s use to) thanking Nas and Jay-Z for putting her on blast because if they didn’t then no one would know who this chick is.
Can you say “SALTY”? This chick is definitely salty over Nas not marrying her. She’s the one with the jealousy issues. Why is she tryin’ to clown Beyonce and Kelis? Evidently, whatever she was workin’ with wasn’t enough to keep Nas or Jay interested. They have moved on so why can’t she live in the PRESENT. Cause presently, she looks like a tired skank.
another bitch drama about some bull shit get on with your life you did what you did
when you was in the spot. (get over it) Like my daddy says he won’t be your first to break your heart. gee p/atl
In regards to Superhead and the Def Jam Jump Off (carmen) I really feel sorry for their children cause they are old enough to read that mommy is a whore. Both of them are horrible mothers. Did they think their kids reading about their mother sexual history about being confronted with it?
Can some one please get me there address so I can send ACS to their houses, because if this isn’t child abuse I don’t know what is.
Firstly…this Carmen “bitch” seems to be angry about something and for her to bash Beyonce with the breath comment that’s a pretty low blow…I say that b/c I’m a huge Beyonce fan and so what if it were to be true about her breath…that has nothing to do with her dishing about the niggas she screwed in the game…I just wanna say that in the end Carmen’s the dumb bitch get f**ked over…
Who is she? & what’s her purpose? Furthermore what’s the moral of the story again? will this nonsense ever end? I guess the marriage to Kelis was realllll devastating….girl get off your ass & get a job…wake up chick & stop trying to capitalize on that “used to be” shit…why not write something to educate the black community, especially the youth. It is so common & expected for “us” to continue with this slavery behavior. What an irresponsible parental decision…so what’s the sequel? her & Superhead slept together…who cares…
I read the book and I f**k with Carmen. She exposed these dudes like they did her and she did it in good taste. She’s is extremely intelligent and so did what was only being done her.She exposed the truth about these f***s and the world just needs to give her book a chance and see what’s real. Niggas are gonna to be niggas and she figured that out early.
According to Barnes and Noble, Carmen Bryan’s sales rank: 600. No joke. Looks like she will still have to rely on that child support check.
i’m all for women steppin gup and out of their shells to do whatever works best for them, nevermind what anybody else thinks or has to say. why should carmen have to keep secrets? if she didn’t write a book, someone else would have just wrote about it later. I have no room to hate on an independent women who take advantage of a good opportunity. ok, ok, now she has revealed the truth…she’s no virgin, no saint, and no role model. But at least now she can be all of those things as an author and a interviewee!
I read the book and yes it is very interesting….since I know some of these people personally. I do feel that she is a light weight hater and is bitter about the other relationships….but I have to give her props. Its not easy to make moves like she did. Something is fly about her. She definately has game. I luv the book!
Carmen Bryan book sales rank update: 957. Wow!
I think this book was 1st of all a big improvement on Corrine’s 4th grade level written book. I dont think any of us should judge this girl. She was a single woman who in her eyes was doing what she felt was for survival. She made mistakes she made some good choices. As someone earlier stated, there were songs written and released to the public referring to her daughter Destiny. She felt compelled to tell her side of the story. So be it. No where in the book does she attempt to justify what she was doing as right or wrong for anyone else but her. It’s her story and I can respect her more than Corrine. The book makes me believe that she really had it bad for Nas. The heart is treacherous, who can know it. Love can make u do and say things you regret. No she wasnt a video ho. I think she was a young woman who got hurt, and u know they say “once a good girl’s gone bad, shes gone forever, now he gotta live with the fact he did her wrong for ever”. Assuming all the details in the book are accurate anyways. Doesnt make it right, but remember Nas cheated first according to the book.
Peace
ima make yall real mad right now but jay z is gay!!!!! its all a cover up.
PLEASE STOP CALLING SUPERHEAD 2 INTELLEGENT AND GIVING HER PROPS. ANY WOMAN THAT HAD A LOT OF SEXUAL PARTNERS CAN WRITE A BOOK ABOUT F*CKIN’ EVERYBODY. BUT THEY RESPECT THEMSELVES TOO MUCH. GREAT ROLE MODEL YOU VIDEO HO. BLACK WOMEN PLEASE STOP LOOKING AT THIS TRICK AS SOMEONE TO LOOK UP TOO. THAT IS WHY BLACK WOMEN ARE IN THE STATE THAT THEY ARE IN TODAY. SHE IS NOTHING BUT A HIGH PRICED HO!!!
Anyone who knows the industry knows Jay-Z always been jealous of Nas especially in the early 90’s. Industry cats all mess with the same chick and Nas was the one of the first cats to get with Beyonce, soo it was no surprise Jay-Z chose to bag her
Anytime a female steps out of line by sneaking around with another man, she is automatically called a ho, bitch, etc. The lying, whoreing man on the otherhand can do the same thing and get away with it, like Nas. Nas was the first whore in this situation and Carmen just gave him a dose of his own medicine. He got his feelings hurt. I say good for Carmen. Always stand up to these bastard men.
Yet another stupid woman backing these low-life ho’s. I hope that you don’t have daughters so they won’t have to listen to your stupid ass. This is not about who got there feelings hurt, this is about a stupid BITCH f**king every body and degrading herself by writing a book about it. YOu write a book about who you are sleeping with and you are a ho. DUMB ASS!
HEY COMNNIE, LET ME SEE, YOU THINK IT’S OK FOR A WOMAN TO STEP OUT BECAUSE, AS YOU SAY, MEN HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOREVER? THATS STUPID. MEN HAVE BEEN SERIAL KILLERS FOR YEARS SO IS IT NOW OK FOR A WOMAN TO DO IT? I AGREE WITH THE COMMENT ABOVE. I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU DON’T HAVE ANY DAUGHTERS SO THEY WON’T END UP WITH 4 KIDS AND 3 BABY DADDIES BECAUSE WITH THAT IGNORANT ATTITUDE THATS WHERE THEY WOULD BE HEADED. THE THEORY THAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN DOING SOMETHING SO IT’S OK FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT IS CHILDISH AND STUPID. GROW UP!!!
To the last two asshole, I am entitled to my opinion just like you are entitled to yours. As I said before,anytime a women steps out of line by sleeping around she is called a whore, ho, etc. I don’t see the same kinds of negative reactions applied to men. If my daughters decided to sleep around, I would hope that they would use condoms as opposed to you dumbass males who are too quite to jump in bed without any protection. Also, it is not stupid to not take shit off of men, but that is what the real argument is about, women should just take it. Not in my world. By the way, I’m teaching my daughters to stand up to you bastards
Chief 00…..... been leaving messages all over for you Check the Imus board and Vick….Happy New year, walk that trail!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace Love and Happiness…......
You are entitled to your comments but when they are as stupid as you sound someone has to address them. You seem to be teaching your daughters to be baby mammas. That is exactly what is wrong with the african-american race today too many single mothers that don’t know shit about teaching there daughters how to be women. You think the arguement is about women taking shit that is because you are a stupid ass. I wonder how many baby daddys you have? I guarantee your daughters have different daddys cause you sound like one of those stupid bitches. Carmen is a ho and you seem to like what she does so what does that make you? Cheating is cheating but when you are writing books about it you are nothing but a high priced ho! QUESTION: Where are your daughters fathers at? They sure are needed.
You said if your daughters decide to sleep around that you would hope they use condoms. How about teaching your daughters to cherish what they have and not just give it to everybody. No man can take a woman serious that sleeps around with everyone STUPID.
Hey asshole, who peed in your cereal? Again, I am entitled to my opinion. That does not make me a whore. I just don’t agree with you. Don’t worry about my daughters. I knew how to care for them and had money to care for them long before I had them. Notice I said I had money to care for them, meaning I don’t depend on a man to do it for me. I have so little respect for men and men like you in particular that I would not be caught depending on one. I’m sure Carmen was out of line, but its her life and she should live it as she chooses. Thats what pisses you off, according to your pathetic statements. You can’t stand it that she didn’t just let Nas walk on her.
You don’thave respect for men because your dumb ass let them walk all over you and now you want to take it out on all of us. So what you have money to care for your daughters but you don’t have the brains to take care of them. As I have asked before where are their fathers at becasuse they are needed. Somebody needs to tell them that you don’t act like Carmen and sleep with everyone and write books about it because you won’t. You say that I am mad because that whore Carmen didn’t let Nas walk all over her. I could care less about that. I care about mothers that don’t know how to tell their daughters to respect what they have. Like I said before no man wants a ho for his woman. No man wants a woman with a bunch of children either and with your teaching that is where your daughters are headed. WAKE YOUR DUMB ASS UP!
QUICK QUESTION TO CONNIE, HOW MANY BABY DADDIES DO YOU HAVE? CAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE ONE OF THOSE CHICKS THAT HAVE MULTIPLE FATHERS FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND AFTER YOU HAVE THESE CHILDREN YOU WANT TO BLAME MEN FOR THAT. STOP HAVING THEM THEN. DON’T BE MAD AT US CAUSE YOU DECIDE TO HAVE THESE CHILDREN. AT SOME POINT YOU NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SEE THAT YOU ARE THE PROBLEM NOT ALL THESE MEN.
To Chief 00…......Did you kick me to the curb or not???? I’ve been leaving messages all over and You don’t answer me!!!!! I thought we were friends and I think you are true to your cause. You wrote me more when you hated me.. Whazz Up, Dude. If you don’t like me, Tell me….. I thought we made great progress in a couple months time and I have to say…..I do respect most everything YOU say, and If I don’t I say so….and sometimes you even agree with me after rethinking the subject.. You made me feel good, and I do have lots of mental issues that are just paralyzing sometimes. I’m going thru a bad spot right now and its not fun to go thru alone…..This will be the last time I try to make contact, Rejection, even if it is on the internet is painful. I’m stumbling on my Peace Love and Happiness path right now and its hard to keep walking in my own shoes..Thanks for at least walking with me for a while. I liked that….Peace, Love, and Happiness
to a short term friendship. Hoping you and your kids are gonna have a great New YEAR All Year….
I think you are a good daddy and want only the best for your family. I don’t know what I think for me???????? Nothin’ I guess
This is to Connie I think that you are right with everything that you said and I think that those f**king ass holes that commented need to shut the f**k up cuz its obvious that her mother raised her right and your mother is a dumb ass for having kids like you she should have gotten an abortion
And I think that Carmen Bryan is a good mom and her book was the shit
You think this trick writing about the men that she spreads her legs open for is a good mom??? Let me guess… You are from the hood ha’? Because low-lifes are the only people that think this whore is a good person. Sometimes the expectations in black life are soooo disappointing. Especially from black women.
A HIGH PRICE HO SHE’S NOT ! FREE GIVING HO SHE IS !
U WOULD THINK THAT SHE WOULD HV LEARNED SOMETHING BY NOW, BUT LIKE SHE SAID THE SAGA CONTINUES.. THE SAGA OF WHOEVER WILL BED HER FREE FUKKING AZZ. LIKE WHAT ARE U GETTING OUT OF THIS? BESIDES A WORE DOWN
UTERUS,A RECORD IN THE ATL DISEASE CONTROL DATA FILES, A REPUTATION AS A HOE ALL THE WAY AROUND AND THAT YOUR DAUGHTER IS GOING TO READ THAT GARBAGE OF A BOOK THAT U PUT OUT.. CARMEN U HAD PLENTY OF CHANCES TO BETTER YOURSELF AND U STILL DO. SOME THINGS SHOULD JUST BE LEFT UNSAID AND ALONE.
I totally agree with the post above.